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Thursday, September 15, 2005

This one's for you. steve.

I have decided to set poor dillusional steve straight. There is a lot of robotic nonsense that has been spouted all over my blog from his foaming at the mouth. And I have decided that I have had enough. The spew is starting to reek. I have decided to do a little housekeeping today.

One thing I would like to clear up is steve's attitude that no one else knows anything but him. Well, steve, my boy, you are wrong. Period. Two of them I am going to clear up right now.

You said, "well i guess alice doesn't know history."

steve, there are a lot of things in this world that I don't know, but there is one thing that I do know and that is history. You see, I graduated magna cum laude from my university with a Bachelors of Arts Degree in History. I don't tend to flaunt it, but I do know it.

The second thing that I'd like to clear up is on what building block the American system was based on. You said, "british neo-liberalism gave our founding fathers the basic ideas on which our constitution is based."

Uh, no it didn't steve. This is the definition of - neoliberalism: A political movement beginning in the 1960s that blends traditional liberal concerns for social justice with an emphasis on economic growth. steve, our country not only was not formed in the 1960's, but we are not based on the British form of government.

I will try to explain to you, steve, in very simple terms where the foundation of the American form of government basically came from. steve, feel free to take your time and read this information slowly so you can soak it all up, and perhaps get it right for a change.

steve, the roots of the American government got its origin in the thinking of the ancient Greeks, the Enlightenment occurring in 1700's Europe, as well as colonial injustices under the British. The founding fathers, steve, looked at both the ancient Greeks and their idea of the democratic government, which the Greeks practiced as a direct democracy (government in which all citizens had say via participation in voting), and the founding fathers looked at the ancient Romans concept of the representative democracy (one in which the citizens elect representatives to act of their behalf in government).

The founding fathers decided on a representative democracy in which qualified citizens elect representatives to carry out their will in government. As you should know, steve, the ONLY example of directly elected officials in the original Constitution was election of representatives to the House of Representatives, as the President is in-directly elected by the electoral college and senators selected by state legislatures.

Now, steve, let me explain to you the thinking behind the founding fathers. Especially, in the case of Thomas Jefferson, it was heavily determined by the intellectual changes that were occurring in Europe in the 1700's. The European Enlightenment focused on reason, human thought, and experience as opposed to the divine reasoning of religious thought. This thinking in government is best seen in the works of Locke, Rousseau and Montesquieu.

Basically, Locke declared that all men are born with the natural rights of "life, liberty and property," and no government could revoke these rights. Locke maintained that it was the citizens that should grant governments the power to rule, in order to protect their natural rights. He believed that when a government failed to protect rights and consent was revoked, the government could be changed or replaced with a revolution.

Rousseau developed the idea of the social contract, which was based on the previous ideas of Locke. It held that a social contract existed between government and the people. It further stated that when government broke the contract by failing to serve the will of the people, a revolution was justified.

Finally, there was Montesquieu, an enlightenment philosopher, who wrote of the benefits of dividing power in a government among more than one branch.

steve, the founding fathers borrowed many of these ideas when they crafted both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. Natural Rights appear in the declaration as "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness". The notion of replacing a government that fails to maintain consent is cited as justification for the American Revolution against the British. Finally, separation of powers was integrated into US government along the three branch system, and protected by the system of checks and balances.

Now steve, I have spent quite a bit of time clearing up some issues that you misrepresented. This part of my dissertation has come to an end. The instructions that I am going to write next are very important. I have allowed you onto my blog, only to have you shit all over like an untrained puppy. You have continually shown a disregard to civility and you have not even attempted any form of debate. You have shown your true colors. You, steve, are a wanker.

1) I am going to allow you one comment, and one comment only. So you had better think long and hard and make it a good one, steve. After your comment, you will no longer be welcomed to comment on my blog. Don't even think you can come over under another pseudonym, because I will know. I will delete you.

2) When you are through commenting, I want you to go and wipe the spiddle off from around your mouth and gargle with some mouthwash.

3) Done? Good, now I want you to get down on your knees, boy, and kiss my exquisite and ravishing white ass.

4) Now fuck off.

Got it?

Good.

22 Comments:

At 2:32 PM , Anonymous steve said...

"Don't even think you can come over under another pseudonym, because I will know. I will delete you."

i honestly shook here, alice. i'm very scared. only a few people in my life have ever made me scared, and you're one of them. hahaha.

yeah fucking right. from what university did you graduate? you have a clock showing the time in georgia so i'm guessing you're a redneck. an unfair assumption? perhaps. if we peruse the list of fine southern universities we come up with such renowned institutions as Florida State, Georgia Tech, UGA and Miami. all schools known for their academics. oh wait, no they're not, they're four year holding pens for either a) idiots who couldn't get into a good northern university or b) training camps for star athletes. you may be butch but i don't see you running the forty in 4.3.

you also mentioned you're an "american girl" (although i'd debate how much of a woman you really are) married to an "english guy" (poor bastard). let me guess, an internet relationship? chat rooms really are a refuge for you people. and by you people i don't mean unattractive or unintelligent (although it does apply here), i mean those who would rather post online (like you, yourself, mike, curt) than actually take up a role in politics. if you're so frustrated why don't you run for elected office? if you hate the way things are being done why don't you go to america, call up the RNC and say "run me in a race?" oh, thats right, your only skills are making half-assed postings and then debating neo-liberalism without even paying attention to the context. but thats ok, alice, you're a bush supporter so details aren't important.

its a black and white world, right alice? theres only good and evil, right alice?

i guess the rest of the world should be happy that people like you stay online rather than entering the real world or going to a real university and taking up space that someone else would actually use.

so go fuck yourself.

Bush/Cheney '04
3000 dead Americans = 4 more years

 
At 3:00 PM , Blogger "Alice" said...

Tut tut, this is what you decided to write about on your last comment to me? God, but what a wasted space you occupy in this world of ours.

Predictably, you decided to use your one comment to trash me. Hmm, well, sorry, the trashing didn't work. I don't give a damn what you think of me personally, because you don't know me at all.

See ya.

 
At 3:26 PM , Anonymous the letter b said...

soz Alice, but tsk, tsk, a typical coward who'd resort to cussings and personal insults than addressing the issue directly. and my, using such a language on a lady too.

like how asians/chinese would remark, "your parents never teach you any manners?"

 
At 3:32 PM , Blogger "Alice" said...

Or what we say, "What, were you raised in a barn?"

 
At 3:53 PM , Blogger Evilicious Blonde said...

Alice, I would soooo love to have a drink with you some day.

*grin*

 
At 4:14 PM , Blogger "Alice" said...

Why thank you blondage. I can guarantee you that you would have a rollicking good time at our pub. Show those English girls what Southern girls are made of.
Bwahaha!

 
At 5:23 PM , Blogger MonicaR said...

What a shame. Stevie truly is NOT capable of forming, much less expressing, an intelligent thought.

You did all you could do, Alicenot. Pull the plug.

 
At 9:36 PM , Blogger Poosh said...

Great Britain was democratic and in fact England has been the beacon for democractic thought even with the Empire, which was not without elements of democracy. Democractic rights etc have always been "created" in England and fought over, a quick look at the English monarchs show how some of them paved the way for concepts we believe are democractic. That being said, Britain did not become a democracy until the 1920s.
I'm off to order a porn DVD seeing as Blondage has convinced me that there is no shame in doing so...

 
At 1:58 AM , Blogger Fred said...

Sorry things have gotten so nasty; I must have missed a a post.

LOL about the pub, though. One of our neighbors introduced us to the "local", and we spent the next two years having a great time partying with our small community.

 
At 9:17 AM , Blogger "Alice" said...

Monicar: As Krip says it's been "done and dusted."

Fred: Nasty is an understatement.

Poosh: You will find no argument from me on any of your statement. Hope you enjoyed your DVD. HA!!

 
At 8:00 PM , Blogger Evilicious Blonde said...

Pooshie Darlin', you must post a review! *grin*

 
At 6:11 AM , Blogger Mike's America said...

Alice: I apologize again that this cretin Steve found his way to your pages from Mike's America.

I understand Stevie is a legend in his own mind, but it's obvious to the rest of us that he is practicing self deception.

You're right on the money too with your post regarding the foundations of American government. I only had a philosophy minor, but did extensive readings in political philosophy.

Locke, and John Stuart Mill were liberals in the classic sense and would be appalled that anyone suggest their focus on LIBERty be confused with modern LIBERals.

Mill:
http://www.wsu.edu:8080/~wldciv/world_civ_reader/world_civ_reader_2/mill.html

Locke:
http://www.historyguide.org/intellect/locke.html

Today's liberalism was a creation of the 1930's with links to Marxism and the socialist collectivist impulse, NOT focused on the individual.

Anyway, better scholars than me have been over this ground extensively the last few decades and reached a similar conclusion.

I HIGHLY recommend, if you have not already done so, that you read the speech by newly confirmed appeals court Justice Janice Rogers Brown speech to the Federalist Society:

http://www.constitution.org/col/jrb/00420_jrb_fedsoc.htm

P.S. I use Haloscan commenting to protect my readers from socialist harassment from clown's like Steve.

 
At 8:24 AM , Blogger "Alice" said...

I've thought of Haloscan, and even put it on my site; however, I don't know how to get rid of the comment section from Blogger...you know the original comments. I know that you also have Blogger, so any hints would be much appreciated.

 
At 12:02 PM , Blogger GaffaUK said...

Mike - in waht way was Steve a socialist? I didn't see Steve refer to himself as such nor discuss an ideology with the core belief that a society should exist in which popular collectives control the means of power, and therefore the means of production.

Or is it that anybody who disagrees with you is automatically a socialist? Why not go the whole hog and call him a communist.

Probably best to keep your readers away from any comments which might give another perspective.

 
At 5:28 AM , Blogger Mike's America said...

Gaffa:

Please tell me where in my above comment I said Steve was a socialist?

He probably is, but I was discussing the roots of modern liberals, and even you must concede that it has roots (if not branches and leaves) in common with the socialist collectivist impulse.

Of course I realize you self deluded lefties prefer to call yourselves "mainstream" or "progressive" but that's about as delusional as saying your policies promote peace!

 
At 5:38 AM , Blogger Mike's America said...

Alice:

In regard to your technical question.

It's been a while since I switched to Haloscan for comments. But I seem to recall that I used an auto install option and didn't have to make any further changes in blogger.

Not only does Haloscan offer you the opportunity to block certain Internet addresses, but you also get to see the IP address and can look it up with another utility.

Good ole Stevie tried really hard to get around the block, even going to his mother's house and probably a cousins to use their computers. I ended up blocking all his relatives.

Interesting, when I posted the poll question for readers asking whether Steve should be banned, he went around to leftie sites begging people to come and vote for him. They didn't even want to bother.

 
At 7:57 PM , Blogger GaffaUK said...

"Please tell me where in my above comment I said Steve was a socialist?"

Howabout the below...

"P.S. I use Haloscan commenting to protect my readers from socialist harassment from clown's like Steve"

 
At 8:06 PM , Blogger GaffaUK said...

Mike - I don't call myself progressive or mainstream. I consider myself a Liberal Democrat which evolved from Liberalism and the Whig party in the UK.

As for American Liberalism evolving from Roosevelt's 30's New Deal - I don't think Roosevelt did a bad job do you? I also see you worked with Zbigniew Brzezinski - who supported Lyndon Johnson's Great Society and served under Carter as National Security Adviser. Didn'the teach you about not mixing up Liberalism with Socialism?

 
At 5:00 AM , Blogger Mike's America said...

Oh thank you for that correction gaffa. Glad to know that video gamers have such a breadth of experience with government and philosophy.

I didn't expect you to admit the links between modern liberalism and socialism. Why that would take a level of intellectual honesty that is sadly lacking in liberalism and it's kissing cousin socialism.

You can choose whichever appellation suits you, it matters not to me. The words mean less than the consequence of your actions or inactions.

As for Brzezinski, he was a practical practition, not a theorist like the failed president he served. He understood that the games you people play (not the video kind) result in advantage to evil and a hindrance to those who oppose it.

 
At 10:07 PM , Blogger GaffaUK said...

If Zbigniew Brzezinski supported Lyndon Johnson's Great Society doesn't that make him a democrat and an American liberal?

You can make all the jibes you like Mike about videogames - doesn't invalidate mine or anyone's else opinion. I see that you are a writer - have you published any books?

 
At 5:11 AM , Blogger Mike's America said...

Publish plenty of articles Guffa... I'd send you copies but I don't want to overtax your free time away from the video games.


Oh, and here's a hint: Zbig was NOT a liberal.

 
At 11:59 PM , Blogger GaffaUK said...

So are you saying that Zbig isn't a Democrat?

Surely supporting Johnson's great society makes you a liberal - in the way you defined it above?

btw - sure send us your articles. Maybe I can base a wargame on them - unless they are about gardening;)

 

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